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	'''Chris Sims:''' "Look you scoffers, marvel and vanish away, because I am doing a work in your days, a work that you will never believe, even if someone were to explain it to you." Acts 13:41.		'''Chris Sims:''' "Look you scoffers, marvel and vanish away, because I am doing a work in your days, a work that you will never believe, even if someone were to explain it to you." Acts 13:41.

			[Music" "Jesus Walks" by Kanye West.]

	Hello friends and neighbors, and welcome to Apocrypals. It's the podcast where two non-believers read through the Bible, but we're not, you know, a-holes about it. My name is Chris Sims and with me as always is the other set of footprints, Benito Cereno. Benito, how are you today?		Hello friends and neighbors, and welcome to Apocrypals. It's the podcast where two non-believers read through the Bible, but we're not, you know, a-holes about it. My name is Chris Sims and with me as always is the other set of footprints, Benito Cereno. Benito, how are you today?
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	'''C:''' Tomorrow's Thursday. Yep. So that would be, is it Maundy Thursday?		'''C:''' Tomorrow's Thursday. Yep. So that would be, is it Maundy Thursday?

	'''B:''' It is Maundy Thursday. Yeah. Uh which is ~~the~~ the perfect like church sanctioned day to go get your petty is tomorrow because it's the day that you celebrate Jesus washing his disciples feet. So, go get your petty on tomorrow.		'''B:''' It is Maundy Thursday. Yeah. Uh which is the perfect like church sanctioned day to go get your petty is tomorrow because it's the day that you celebrate Jesus washing his disciples feet. So, go get your petty on tomorrow.

	'''C:''' Then we got Good Friday. Yeah. Then. Bad Saturday.		'''C:''' Then we got Good Friday. Yeah. Then. Bad Saturday.
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	'''C:''' Wait, wait, wait. Question. Why is it Luke and not Matthew? Or, sorry, or John? Because John's the last one. John's the one that comes immediately.		'''C:''' Wait, wait, wait. Question. Why is it Luke and not Matthew? Or, sorry, or John? Because John's the last one. John's the one that comes immediately.

	'''B:''' John is the last one, yeah. I don't exactly know why the Gospels get ordered the way that they are. It's not chronological. Mark is the earliest of the Gospels, for sure. Matthew and Luke would have been roughly contemporary. John would ~~have~~ have been the latest, but we know Luke and Acts are the same author. Through things like textual analysis we can see they use the same kind of vocabulary and phraseology, that kind of stuff. But also they're both addressed to this guy Theophilus, right? They're both written basically as, not quite a letter, but they're written to this guy. They say, "Hey Theophilus, here's a book I wrote for you." Who is Theophilus we do not know? I know, Chris, you don't speak Greek, but you might be able to put together.		'''B:''' John is the last one, yeah. I don't exactly know why the Gospels get ordered the way that they are. It's not chronological. Mark is the earliest of the Gospels, for sure. Matthew and Luke would have been roughly contemporary. John would have been the latest, but we know Luke and Acts are the same author. Through things like textual analysis we can see they use the same kind of vocabulary and phraseology, that kind of stuff. But also they're both addressed to this guy Theophilus, right? They're both written basically as, not quite a letter, but they're written to this guy. They say, "Hey Theophilus, here's a book I wrote for you." Who is Theophilus we do not know? I know, Chris, you don't speak Greek, but you might be able to put together.

	'''C:''' Oh, but I can guess this one. Theo, meaning religion, and Phileas, or God, and Phileas meaning a lover of. So is Theophilus a specific person, or is he just saying, "Hey fans, I'm back. What's going on?"		'''C:''' Oh, but I can guess this one. Theo, meaning religion, and Phileas, or God, and Phileas meaning a lover of. So is Theophilus a specific person, or is he just saying, "Hey fans, I'm back. What's going on?"
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	'''C:''' If you're familiar with the Bible story, it's usually depicted as Judas committing suicide by hanging himself. That's what's in your Jesus Christ superstars.		'''C:''' If you're familiar with the Bible story, it's usually depicted as Judas committing suicide by hanging himself. That's what's in your Jesus Christ superstars.

	'''B:''' It's what's in Matthew 27:5. Matthew 27:5 says, "He threw the silver into the sanctuary and departed, then he went and hanged himself." That~~'s your, that~~'s the gospel version.		'''B:''' It's what's in Matthew 27:5. Matthew 27:5 says, "He threw the silver into the sanctuary and departed, then he went and hanged himself." That's the gospel version.

	'''C:''' Acts, Book One, chapters 8 and 19 say, "Now this man acquired a field with his unrighteous wages. He fell head first and burst open in the middle and all his insides spilled out. This became note to all the residents of Jerusalem so that in their own language, the field is called Hakeldama, that is, field of blood."		'''C:''' Acts, Book One, chapters 8 and 19 say, "Now this man acquired a field with his unrighteous wages. He fell head first and burst open in the middle and all his insides spilled out. This became note to all the residents of Jerusalem so that in their own language, the field is called Hakeldama, that is, field of blood."
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	'''C:''' He gets equally into the Lord, like, in about five minutes. Or I guess it's probably like an hour. It's a long road to Damascus.		'''C:''' He gets equally into the Lord, like, in about five minutes. Or I guess it's probably like an hour. It's a long road to Damascus.

	'''B:''' Yeah, he definitely is one of those guys who just moves from, like, obsession to obsession, for sure, right? Like, yeah, he is pretty hardcore into the persecution of Christians. We do learn later that he is a member of the Pharisees, the guys who, kind of, in a way, the major villains of the Gospels, who – the Pharisees were just – they were a religious sect, arguably also a political party at this time. Their main thing was strict adherence to the law, right? And so that's why they didn't like Jesus, because Jesus was like, "Hey, what's up? It's ~~all~~ all about faith, the law. You'll follow the law if your faith is there, right? They didn't care for that. Like, that was that was kind of their major thing.		'''B:''' Yeah, he definitely is one of those guys who just moves from, like, obsession to obsession, for sure, right? Like, yeah, he is pretty hardcore into the persecution of Christians. We do learn later that he is a member of the Pharisees, the guys who, kind of, in a way, the major villains of the Gospels, who – the Pharisees were just – they were a religious sect, arguably also a political party at this time. Their main thing was strict adherence to the law, right? And so that's why they didn't like Jesus, because Jesus was like, "Hey, what's up? It's all about faith, the law. You'll follow the law if your faith is there, right? They didn't care for that. Like, that was that was kind of their major thing.

	So we see, we learned that Paul is a Pharisee, so he would have been super into strict and conservative interpretations of the Jewish religion. We also learned significantly that he is a Roman citizen, which he would have earned, he would have earned through one of his father or his grandfather or something who would have earned this citizenship through some favor of, you know, the Emperor or something like that.		So we see, we learned that Paul is a Pharisee, so he would have been super into strict and conservative interpretations of the Jewish religion. We also learned significantly that he is a Roman citizen, which he would have earned, he would have earned through one of his father or his grandfather or something who would have earned this citizenship through some favor of, you know, the Emperor or something like that.
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	'''B:''' Yeah, and that's essentially the message from Isaiah, right? In Isaiah, these are the words of God to Isaiah saying, like, "Look, man, I'm assigning you this message of judgment and punishment and the people are not going to like it, so you should be prepared for that. And so that's the parallel here, right? Paul's message as well is one where he's going to have some difficulty spreading it. It's going to be things that people don't want to hear.		'''B:''' Yeah, and that's essentially the message from Isaiah, right? In Isaiah, these are the words of God to Isaiah saying, like, "Look, man, I'm assigning you this message of judgment and punishment and the people are not going to like it, so you should be prepared for that. And so that's the parallel here, right? Paul's message as well is one where he's going to have some difficulty spreading it. It's going to be things that people don't want to hear.

	'''C:''' Yeah, which seems, again, we're getting a pretty good picture of Paul. He's a dude who's super into it, is going to go like, he's very extra, he's going to go zero to a hundred, he's going to get himself into trouble. And then if you don't like it, well then that's, that's your problem. That's ~~your,~~ I'm just asking questions. That's your problem.		'''C:''' Yeah, which seems, again, we're getting a pretty good picture of Paul. He's a dude who's super into it, is going to go like, he's very extra, he's going to go zero to a hundred, he's going to get himself into trouble. And then if you don't like it, well then that's, that's your problem. That's your– I'm just asking questions. That's your problem.

	'''B:''' Yeah.		'''B:''' Yeah.
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	'''C:''' Ooh. Ooh. Peter might end up being my favorite. No, it's going to be fast. It's going to be fast. It's going to be porky.		'''C:''' Ooh. Ooh. Peter might end up being my favorite. No, it's going to be fast. It's going to be fast. It's going to be porky.

	'''B:''' Yeah. Porky party. Yeah. Very. Yeah. And so anyway, yeah, that's there. There~~'s your, there~~'s your call to action, right? There's your, that's the turning point in the, in the mission. And, and so, yeah, you know, the message here of the book is like, "Hey, wasn't this a Jewish thing? Why is it all Greeks and Romans now?" And the story shows like, "Uh, well, we offered it to the Jews and they were like, 'No thanks,' and they killed all our dudes. And so we were like, 'What about these Greek boys?' And that's what happened."		'''B:''' Yeah. Porky party. Yeah. Very. Yeah. And so anyway, yeah, that's there. There's your call to action, right? There's your, that's the turning point in the, in the mission. And, and so, yeah, you know, the message here of the book is like, "Hey, wasn't this a Jewish thing? Why is it all Greeks and Romans now?" And the story shows like, "Uh, well, we offered it to the Jews and they were like, 'No thanks,' and they killed all our dudes. And so we were like, 'What about these Greek boys?' And that's what happened."

	So yeah, I mean, like that's the message there. And it also kind of shows that you've got a foundation of anti-Semitism going all the way to the back, all the way back to the beginning.		So yeah, I mean, like that's the message there. And it also kind of shows that you've got a foundation of anti-Semitism going all the way to the back, all the way back to the beginning.
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	'''B:''' Right. Those are the guys, Peter and Paul. They're the two saints, right? If you hear the phrase, two saints somewhere, even what's his name, the producer from Justice League, Joaquin Dos Santos, right? That's his name, Johnny Two Saints, right? Those are the two saints they mean. They mean Peter and Paul. If you go to Rome and you see two saints together, you know who those boys are. You know it's Peter, you know it's Paul. They're the guys. But to quote Laser Swords the movie, there is another.		'''B:''' Right. Those are the guys, Peter and Paul. They're the two saints, right? If you hear the phrase, two saints somewhere, even what's his name, the producer from Justice League, Joaquin Dos Santos, right? That's his name, Johnny Two Saints, right? Those are the two saints they mean. They mean Peter and Paul. If you go to Rome and you see two saints together, you know who those boys are. You know it's Peter, you know it's Paul. They're the guys. But to quote Laser Swords the movie, there is another.

	There is another very significant church leader who is basically minimized in the book of Acts, and that is James. Not James the Great. We do see James the Great. He's the first of the apostles to get martyred. We see him killed back in chapter 12. But this is the one known as James the Just. And who exactly James the Just is is a matter of very hot debate. He could be James the Less, also James the son of Alphaeus that we saw one of the disciples, apostles. But more likely, James the Just is also known as James the brother of God. So potentially James the brother of Jesus himself, right? That is obviously a matter of debate because Catholics believe in the perpetual virginity of Mary. They do not believe that Mary had any other children. Protestants, however, most, as far as I'm aware, do not have issue with interpreting the four brothers and multiple sisters of Jesus as being his literal full-blooded, or, you know, whatever, brothers and sisters.		There is another very significant church leader who is basically minimized in the book of Acts, and that is James. Not James the Great. We do see James the Great. He's the first of the apostles to get martyred. We see him killed back in chapter 12. But this is the one known as James the Just. And who exactly James the Just is a matter of very hot debate. He could be James the Less, also James the son of Alphaeus that we saw one of the disciples, apostles. But more likely, James the Just is also known as James the brother of God. So potentially James the brother of Jesus himself, right? That is obviously a matter of debate because Catholics believe in the perpetual virginity of Mary. They do not believe that Mary had any other children. Protestants, however, most, as far as I'm aware, do not have issue with interpreting the four brothers and multiple sisters of Jesus as being his literal full-blooded, or, you know, whatever, brothers and sisters.

	'''C:''' Not whole.		'''C:''' Not whole.
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	'''B:''' Absolutely.		'''B:''' Absolutely.

	'''C:''' All right, that's it for the first episode of ~~Apocryphalos~~ everybody. Join us next time for the Book of Daniel. We'll see you then. Until then, I have been Chris Sims with Benito Cereno. Benito, peace be with you.		'''C:''' All right, that's it for the first episode of Apocrypals everybody. Join us next time for the Book of Daniel. We'll see you then. Until then, I have been Chris Sims with Benito Cereno. Benito, peace be with you.

	'''B:''' And also with you.		'''B:''' And also with you.

			[Music" "Jesus Walks" by Kanye West.]

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	'''Chris Sims:''' "Look you scoffers, marvel and vanish away, because I am doing a work in your days, a work that you will never believe, even if someone were to explain it to you." Acts 13:41.		'''Chris Sims:''' "Look you scoffers, marvel and vanish away, because I am doing a work in your days, a work that you will never believe, even if someone were to explain it to you." Acts 13:41.

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	'''B:''' No, no, no. It was your idea. It was my idea. It was, it was, yeah, the podcast was also my idea. Yeah, that's true. But it was one of those things where once we got into it, I was like, oh, this is a podcast, right? This is a podcast. But I picked it because I thought we should start with the New Testament. It's just a little bit more familiar, a little bit easier to read. Also, most of the New Testament books are shorter than many Old Testament books. It would feature a cast of characters you would mostly be familiar with, but also, like I said, it's got action right there in the title. We've got not one but two evil wizards, and there are a number of other things that I thought would appeal to your particular sensibility so I thought this would be a good one to start with even though it is an explicit sequel which is maybe a little bit weird for the very first thing let's like to start with part two but we did it.		'''B:''' No, no, no. It was your idea. It was my idea. It was, it was, yeah, the podcast was also my idea. Yeah, that's true. But it was one of those things where once we got into it, I was like, oh, this is a podcast, right? This is a podcast. But I picked it because I thought we should start with the New Testament. It's just a little bit more familiar, a little bit easier to read. Also, most of the New Testament books are shorter than many Old Testament books. It would feature a cast of characters you would mostly be familiar with, but also, like I said, it's got action right there in the title. We've got not one but two evil wizards, and there are a number of other things that I thought would appeal to your particular sensibility so I thought this would be a good one to start with even though it is an explicit sequel which is maybe a little bit weird for the very first thing let's like to start with part two but we did it.

	'''C:''' Odds are pretty good that if you are listening to a podcast about the Bible you are at least passingly familiar with the story of Jesus Christ and how and look I		'''C:''' Odds are pretty good that if you are listening to a podcast about the Bible you are at least passingly familiar with the story of Jesus Christ and how and look I, you probably know what happens on Good Friday you probably know what happens on Easter Sunday. Those are the big ones. Those are the big ones.

	~~''':'''~~ you probably know what happens on Good Friday you probably know what happens on Easter Sunday. Those are the big ones. Those are the big ones.

	'''B:''' Those are the big ones, yeah.		'''B:''' Those are the big ones, yeah.
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	'''C:''' Certainly in Avignon.		'''C:''' Certainly in Avignon.

	''':''' I was gonna say, Popes and anti-Popes, that would have been wild. That would have been wild. Magic Popes versus anti-Popes just flying around, zapping each other with tongues of flame. European history, AP, take me away.		'''B:''' I was gonna say, Popes and anti-Popes, that would have been wild. That would have been wild. Magic Popes versus anti-Popes just flying around, zapping each other with tongues of flame. European history, AP, take me away.

	'''C:''' And I feel like we would have heard about that.		'''C:''' And I feel like we would have heard about that.
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	'''B:''' Indeed.		'''B:''' Indeed.

	''':''' That's right. Your favorite minor villain is going to make his way back and believe me when I tell you, it's dope.		'''C:''' That's right. Your favorite minor villain is going to make his way back and believe me when I tell you, it's dope.

	'''B:''' Yeah, it really is. And despite being an apocryphal book, the Acts of Peter and Paul is hugely influential on Christian belief and depictions in art. And we'll learn that as the more we look at apocryphal books, we'll see that even though these things didn't make the cut, it didn't mean that people didn't still believe in them and take a lot of things away from them.		'''B:''' Yeah, it really is. And despite being an apocryphal book, the Acts of Peter and Paul is hugely influential on Christian belief and depictions in art. And we'll learn that as the more we look at apocryphal books, we'll see that even though these things didn't make the cut, it didn't mean that people didn't still believe in them and take a lot of things away from them.

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